Tate!

[wildchild1954]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm i am mixed about whether I want Tate to be happy or not for purely selfish reasons. Don't get me wrong I feel bad for him but to give him a love interest at this point I feel would almost undermine his feelings for Cat. If they are as deep as they seem there is no way someone is going to come along and replace Cat for him. I would like to see some crazy messed up plotting between him and Annetee to cause a few problems. Lets be honest NOONE is ever going to come between Cat and Bones after all they have been through but I could so see Tate and Annette having a go and then maybe realising that they belong together not because of undying love but because noone else could ever understand the pain that they suffer not having their true hearts desire. OK yes I am more than a little disturbed in the head ... my thoughts live in a dark dark place

I don't think Bones is or ever was Annette's true heart's desire. He was someone she was comfortable with and had an extensive sexual history with, all the way back to when he was human. That, and the fact that he saved her from her husband and turned her makes her possessive of him. She doesn't think Cat deserves to have him.

And I'm not too sure Tate actually loves Cat either. It sounds more like a case of "I want what I know I can't have" to me. He has always known he couldn't have her. Even when the team was first being formed he knew she was untouchable. She was someone safe for him to fixate on since nothing was going to come of it. And now he doesn't want to give that up because he doesn't like Bones and it's a great way to irritate him.

[Chantress]

I don't think Bones is or ever was Annette's true heart's desire. He was someone she was comfortable with and had an extensive sexual history with, all the way back to when he was human. That, and the fact that he saved her from her husband and turned her makes her possessive of him. She doesn't think Cat deserves to have him.

And I'm not too sure Tate actually loves Cat either. It sounds more like a case of "I want what I know I can't have" to me. He has always known he couldn't have her. Even when the team was first being formed he knew she was untouchable. She was someone safe for him to fixate on since nothing was going to come of it. And now he doesn't want to give that up because he doesn't like Bones and it's a great way to irritate him.

Hmmmmmmm food for thought there wildchild. I am not sure I agree but its an interesting perspective. With Tate i personally feel it goes deeper than the I want what I can't have theory mainly because he is willling to die to protect her and even Bones recognises that fact to the extent that on several occassions he states that that is pretty much ALL that Tate is good for.

As for Annette, the reason I felt that her feelings for Bones ran deeper was her reaction when it appeared he was dead. She was willing to end it all at that point and it was Cat that urged out the vampyric need for vengenace in her. I am not sure though now having read what you wrote if perhaps this reaction was more due to Bones being her maker and the long long history they shared. Hmmmmmmmmm food for thought for sure

[wildchild1954]

Hmmmmmmm food for thought there wildchild. I am not sure I agree but its an interesting perspective. With Tate i personally feel it goes deeper than the I want what I can't have theory mainly because he is willling to die to protect her and even Bones recognises that fact to the extent that on several occassions he states that that is pretty much ALL that Tate is good for.

As for Annette, the reason I felt that her feelings for Bones ran deeper was her reaction when it appeared he was dead. She was willing to end it all at that point and it was Cat that urged out the vampyric need for vengenace in her. I am not sure though now having read what you wrote if perhaps this reaction was more due to Bones being her maker and the long long history they shared. Hmmmmmmmmm food for thought for sure

That and Annette's natural flair for dramatics!!

[acousticpixie14]

All pretty good points....
I think Annette loves Bones in the sense of they're long history for sure, and maybe doesn't realize that her emotions don't run as deep as she thinks. Does that make sense? I dunno I have problems articulating sometimes....

But as for what eamurray022980 said....

I kind of know what you mean, but the only reason it's straining her relationship with Bones is because she is fond of Tate. If it was just Tate and Cat was brassed off about it, then there would be no strain. And really, I pity him, I don't mind that he is so up front about it because Cat just seems a little annoyed, not thoroughly pissed off and agitated or anything, like it's not that much of strain. Especially since he's gone so often now.
My problem is that well, if you were in Tate's shoes what would you do? Just give up fighting for what you want? That's no way to go. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I gave up on someone that was all I ever wanted, who I owed everything to.
I have done some thinking, and I think that I agree, I don't want Tate to find someone else, because it would kind of be like undermining his feelings for Cat. I honestly, truly want Tate to die.
Now hear me out before you freak out.
I love Tate sooo much! He's a good guy, it just sucks that Bones was there first, and I pick Bones over Tate everyday. But here's the thing, what if he died for Cat? Like took a bullet for her (although that wouldn't work since he's a vamp you get the idea). Then he wouldn't find someone else, and his feelings for Cat would no longer cause pain on both sides, and it's a good way to go, that he'd be proud of. Bones would appreciate it and not desecrate his memory.
As he said...
"All I've got is how I live. How I'll die? That's the problem of the guy who kills me."
I think that right there is point enough that if he could sacrifice himself for Cat, he would in a heartbeat....or uhh....in the blink of an eye, since his heart doesn't beat lol

Any thoughts?

[Chantress]

I am glad you agree with me about Tate NOT finding someone else acousticpixe but I can't will him dead. I love the tension he causes and whilst i feel for him every time he gets cut down I get shivers every time Bones threatens him. I LOVE that jealousy in him. OK yes maybe I have issues

[ConvertMePlease]

I don't know if I want Tate to die either. I'm all for him getting some perspective on how he feels for Cat but as the story goes on it seems, at least to me, that he is getting a little obsessive. I don't want him to find his HEA yet but he does need to at least meet someone who he likes so he can at least begin to feel some romantic feelings for someone else. If he doesn't and continues on this obsessive roller coaster I think there is a chance he could end up doing something extremely stupid to try to get Cat with him instead of Bones. I mean there is always the chance that another vamp could make him feel so much jealousy that it completely takes over his life and he could try for some kind of setup that kills, or at least make Cat question her feeling for, Bones to get him out of the picture. Tate's behavior was starting to seem a little stalkerish to me.

[Lady Karma]

Does anyone here think that Tate might become a villain in the future? I mean I like Tate and I truely want him to be happy but if he cant be happy with anyone but Cat then that is a big problem. Tate might decide that if he really cant have cat then no one else can either. I dont mean that he would hurt Cat, but he might do something really stupid and then Cat would have to do something about him. I think that would be really hard for her because Tate is a friend of hers.

[acousticpixie14]

Hmmmmm
Yeah, I agree that I don't want Tate to die, but I think that's the best route in my opinion.
And I'd rather it be an act of heroism than like Bones cutting him down cause he did something stupid.

[eamurray022980]

Does anyone here think that Tate might become a villain in the future? I mean I like Tate and I truely want him to be happy but if he cant be happy with anyone but Cat then that is a big problem. Tate might decide that if he really cant have cat then no one else can either. I dont mean that he would hurt Cat, but he might do something really stupid and then Cat would have to do something about him. I think that would be really hard for her because Tate is a friend of hers.

To a degree I can see Tate becoming a villian, but only toward Cat and Bones. He is a military man first and has always stated that, so I do not see him doing anything destructive in that nature. However I do see him getting into trouble to either 1) keep Cat's attention on him in some level; 2) mocking/embarassing Bones in the vamp world where Bones would have not choice but retaliate; or 3) going completely suicidal and physically trying to go after Cat.

I do believe that he thinks he is in love with her, but he is blinded by everything else. But no matter what Cat has also not cut that link either. She has told him time and again no, but she also keeps him around, so he ain't gonna stop until he's dead or meets someone else. Like I said, he has already had a knife in his chest, and he still didn't get it.

[Karen]

Wow, I don't disagree with what anyone said. I hope Tate doesn't become a villain that would just be out of character, but somethings got to give. Either he gets over her or something bad is going to happen, I'm not good at speculating...so I'll leave that up to y'all. I don't want him to die, but if he did, I hope he dies a good man and for a good reason, not because Cat or Bones had to put him down.